In this conversation Dr Claudelle and Priscillah Mabelane explore the factors that contribute to the challenges women find in leadership and how to break through those barriers. They also touch on the hierarchies created in terms of race and gender and the need for diversity and inclusivity. Priscillah shares deep insights into what both male and female leaders should do to level the playing field for leaders in terms of race and gender and the ethical implications in that context. She gives valuable advice to aspiring leaders and how they can leave a legacy.

When Leadership Wounds the Conscience
The last thing I expected that day was an apology. For a few seconds that felt like an eternity, I was at a loss for words. The young man sitting opposite me had just admitted that he had helped fabricate stories about me because his boss had instructed him to do so. I remember my anger. What I did not understand then was the injury he had suffered himself.

